Posted by: Greg Huff | March 15, 2010

Facebook Face Off

The following is part of a post to Facebook in response to a statist (and self-styled Conservative) that was commenting on a Michelle Malkin post. I mostly got involved due to the really horrific personal attacks being lodged in the direction of the rational posters. I have not included here all of the comments that are referred to or commented on.

I found it interesting that the poster did not reply to my posts (there was one but it was not worth posting here as it was an unrelated rant on God in schools). Rather than reacting to the personal attacks it seems to be much better to just point them out and quote the definition as I did.
The last name of the poster being debated is “Batts”. Yeah…pretty much. (The poster’s comments are in italics.)

If it was not for the public option public schools you and your children would not have any education whatsoever. You and your whole family would be back wood hillbillies. If it was not for the public option public school bus to provide you and your family with public transportation you would still be swinging from a tree limb a monkey.

If it was not for the public option public hospital you would not even have a damn hospital to go to. I bet you and all your children were born in the public option public hospital. If it was not for the public option public library you wouldn’t be able to get your hands on a book. You sound like someone who has never been to school at all or maybe you are just plum retarded.

If you have participated in any of these public options then you are a socialist. You all talk like a bunch of troglydytes (sic) who just crawled out of some cave into the dawn of civilization. Well we are going to pass HCR and we will also get the public option. Our God is a mighty God and our God don’t take no shit. It was our God who put Obama in the white house in the first place. If you don’t like it crawl back into your cave and stay for another 5000 years.

All of what you say is patently untrue. Public schools for most of its history was community based financed by local property taxes. Not optimal but at least constitutional.

The federal government has no place being involved in public schools, hospitals or libraries. The tenth amendment (bill of rights) “Declares that powers not delegated to the federal government belong to the states or to the people”.

Local and state governments do have a right to do the things you mentioned and if locally originated and administered can be good for the community.

When the federal government gets involved bureaucratic know-best and one size fits all mentality makes these programs inefficient and oppressive.

Private schools, private hospitals (including charity hospitals) and private libraries would fill in these slots if government would step aside…and they would do these jobs much more effectively and frugally.

Despite your protestations, the government is not the be all and end all of society. You have no argument except personal attacks. If you had an argument you would not have to resort to them. But like most statists you always will.

I am a conservative and yes I voted for Obama and yes you all talk like a bunch of retards. According to my dictionary a retard is “someone who tries to impede or delay progress” or to “try to hold back”. This is exactly what you retards are trying to do. So you retards go ahead and knock your retarded selves out. But you cannot stop progress anymore than you can stop the time.

Beth now you understand why I say do not pray for me because I do not want any retards praying for me and God does not listen to retards who deliberately stand in the way of righteous progress. Obama will go forward and God is with him because he is a righteous man. Retards or people who try to impede and delay progress do not understand righteousness. God is not listening to your dumb prayers.

Part of the statist strategy is to make statism seem inevitable. To browbeat by personal attacks those who oppose the statist agenda. You’ve seen it this weekend by the Obama cronies announcing they “have the votes” when they do not.

On the conservative comment, I suppose there may be some definition of conservative that would cover what she espouses but I could not find one. Progressive would be more the term. Statist is more descriptive.

There is no argument here. Only ad hominem attacks ( according to Websters: A fallacious objection to an argument or factual claim by appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim; an attempt to argue against an opponent’s idea by discrediting the opponent himself.)

The “righteous progress” spoken of is nothing more than retrogression to the statist policies and practice that has been in existence since the beginning of time.

The American Constitution was actual progress that made possible the unparalleled affluence, and benevolent power that lifted most people out of poverty in this country. The United States is the engine that powers the rest of the world. I do not think all of you “retards” out there will allow these statists to undo all of the actual progress made over the past 200 years. At least I hope not.

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  1. Well done, Greg. I might note that a large number of what the writer calls public option libraries were actually built by Andrew Carnegie. He was responsible for building more than 2500 libraries in Great Britain and the U.S. Nearly 1700 of those were in the U.S. and if I remember correctly, the Centralia Library is one of those.
    This is typical of the elitist Statist thinking that nothing can happen without government and we would all be idiots unable to take care of ourselves without government. Sadly sickening.
    What religion does he/she belong to that God only listens to the smartest people.
    This sounds to me to be an eastern liberal that thinks they are quite conservative but are really quit far left.

    • Thanks Don. You are of course right about Andrew Carnegie and that the Centralia library was one of them. I wish I had thought of that! Thanks! I have to laugh about your comment about elitist statist thinking… I was just reading an article “Liberalism Truly is a Mental Disorder” . Of course as I have said in the past it is very hard to overcome fixed ideas as the false data has been accepted as the foundation of ones life view and any data that contradicts it is kicked out as untrue. It is like having corrupted code in your operating program. Until it is found and eliminated it will always skew the answer. I guess conservative could mean to the left “well I’m not radical…”

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